Miscellaneous

Various or short or incomplete points which do not go anywhere else at this time.

 

1.  A Fatima Discussion: Militant doubt against Fatima, for some reason.

2.  Concerning Apocalypse Ch. 17: Underdeveloped notes and speculations still incomplete.

3.  The Status Of The Four Horsemen: Emerging from 1941-1965. Where they are today.

4.  Schrödinger Strikes Again: Formal cause vs. atheistic evolution. Schrödinger will strike yet again.

5.  Psyops And The Blind: YouTube comments discussion on religion falsely likened to psyops.

6.  Schrödinger Strikes Again Again: (Same as #4; scroll down) Interpreting the "Ascendifix"; the new false 'crucifix'.

The rest will be on this page only.

7.  [Oct.31/26]  The Choirs And The Popes. (From https://novusordowatch.org/2026/10/vatican-bans-tlm-pilgrims-from-st-peters/)  We focus on one response. The context in link.

(CounterRevolutionary)

Women singing in the choir is not the same discipline as fast and abstinence laws. You're actually wrong about the ancient disciplinary practice of eating eggs, milk, etc. which was practiced in the early church but stopped later when the rules got very strict. Because some laws can change doesn't mean all of them can. Pius X declared in Tra le sollecitudini: 13. “On the same principle it follows that singers in church have a real liturgical office, and that therefore women, being incapable of exercising such office, cannot be admitted to form part of the choir. Whenever, then, it is desired to employ the acute voices of sopranos and contraltos, these parts must be taken by boys, according to the most ancient usage of the Church.”

It's beyond the power of a pope to admit a woman to an office they are incapable of exercising according to Pius X. He says these parts MUST be taken by boys because it's impossible for women. Perhaps Pius X is wrong and Pius XI and XII got it right. I'm not defending Pius X but showing what he taught and how a future pope contradicted his teaching.

Lee, you say you're not against this or the changes that came later, but you can't have both. One side is wrong, either Pius X or Pius XII. Do you feel the same about altar girls? The same principle applies here. You should have no problem with altar girls or women reading for the lectionary if Pius XII had approved them. Do you say these disciplines can change ?

(Our response)

The women were not exercising the office. They were merely adding their voices to the men and boys who were fulfilling that office, with no addition nor subtraction to the totality of the fulfillment of that office.

Thus it is fine as long as there is one male member present. But this is besides the point.

St. Pius X is fine to declare such about women and their incapability to exercise the office as it pertains to the choir. But another pope in another time can just as well decide that the choir is not essential to the liturgy. In principle it may, or it may not. But it does not complete the liturgy, nor is the liturgy incomplete without it. Therefore women may or may not be admitted, in principle, according to how the pope intends the choir to accompany the liturgy. Thus "on the same principle" it follows that the choir may not be necessary for the liturgy.