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[Apr.13/26]  Updates/Addendums: Addition to The Convoluted And Divisive Narrative Of The End Game Of The 'Mystery Of Iniquity'. There will be a split in the globalist factions.
 
[Mar.29/26]  Last Times Observatory: "The Convoluted And Divisive Narrative Of The End Game Of The 'Mystery Of Iniquity'".
 
 
[Mar.13/26]  All Additions To Fatima-Apocalypse (2026): "The End Of The World-Wide Internet (The Seventh Vial)"; and related observations concerning the 6th Seal and Chapter 13.

[Mar.13/26]  Fifth Seal addendum. On this page or in Updates/Addendums 


Two Timelines Of Apocalypse (Part Three): "It All Comes Down To This".
The Book Of Life Thesis: The meaning of 'the little book open' (Apoc. Ch. 10); the full implication of the Book of Life; examining Daniel's prophecy (Ch. 12); resolving a 'circular logic problem'.

Follow-up to "Two Timelines (Part Three)": How the Apocalypse may be used by the Adversary if it is not ignored or discounted, or all at once.
                                                                   

Separate [footnotes] pages added for longer sections. It is not efficient to be hunting for them, and they really ought not to be neglected. However, to keep everything in the mainline text would render it unwieldy. The 'footnotes' are really 'extended details'. Meant to open on a separate page so as to flip back and forth rather than scrolling constantly.

Summary of site contents below or here.
                                                                  
 
 
{The Fifth Seal and a summary of the first Four will remain on the front page.}

Timeline of the Seals' Opening:

1941: White Horse. December 8; upon the declaration of war following Pearl Harbour.
1949: Red Horse. August 29;  the Soviet Union tests its first nuclear bomb. [1]
1957: Black Horse. March 25; the Treaty of Rome establishing the EEC is signed. [2]
1965: Pale Horse. December 8; Vatican '2' is signed into being by antipope Paul 6.
(1966-2019: The movements of the four horsemen are operating in the world, each in their own way contributing to the building of globalism.)
2020: Pandemic Illusion. March 11; World Health Organization declares COVID-19 as a pandemic.
202?: The "Warning". Of Garabandal; in actuality, the 6th Seal.
202?: The "Miracle". Of Garabandal; in actuality, the 7th Seal.


Notable differences between the first four seals and the last three: The first four seals are represented as four horsemen, announced by the four living creatures, and are opened in a definite sequence, once every 8 years over a 24-year span. The last three seals are not announced, there is no apparent sequence, and there is a significant gap in time between them.

This gap in time is 55 years. As there is already a noticeable sequence in time for the first four seals, the digits are not coincidental.

The first four seals were announced by the four living creatures, representing Our Lady of Fatima, as a parallel to the fulfillment of Fatima prophecy: "Russia will spread her errors throughout the world, raising up wars and persecutions of the Church", beginning with the wars of the United States in 1941 and the persecutions of the Church with the imposition of Vatican '2' in 1965.

As a long period of time had elapsed since the opening of the fourth seal it is possible, by looking back, to see their unfolding; but as the fourth Marian dogma had not been defined until 1950, it was unlikely the connection would  be made at that time.

The last three seals were not announced, then, because they did not need to be; the four horsemen would not have been perceived as they began, but only long afterward; and then, once they were perceived, the last three seals could be expected.

That there are only four 'living creatures' to announce them is not incidental, but the definition of the last Marian dogma is timed so as to then correctly place the chronology of the seals' opening. 

 
The Fifth Seal Opened For What Reason ? [3]

The text does not give the reason, nor is there any apparent effect in the world:

6:9  And when he had opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of them that were slain for the word of God and for the testimony which they held.

The next verse does indicate the passing of a great length of time:

6:10  And they cried with a loud voice, saying:  How long, O Lord (Holy and True), dost thou not judge and revenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth?

The last verse gives some indication as to the state of world, in which martyrdom is expected:

6:11  And white robes were given to every one of them one; And it was said to them that they should rest for a little time till their fellow servants and their brethren, who are to be slain even as they, should be filled up.

The context: It is 55 years since the arrival of the Pale Horse, representing Vatican '2', and together with the movements of the other three, have resulted in the state of the world as of 2020. Few have the true Faith. The wicked "deal wickedly" (Dan. 12: 10) with no recompense. There will be future martyrs not yet chosen.

There is little left of Catholicism in its former churches, except the relics of saints and martyrs under the altars.[4]

 
The Reason Which Is Not

The seal was opened when a pandemic was declared March 11, 2020. This pandemic was contrived, and did not actually exist. It was a re-branding of the flu. A test was enacted in which the results were interpreted as one having the virus or not. This is why the presence of symptoms or not did not matter.[5]

What it represented was the near total control the mystery of iniquity had over the world, as a result of the influence of the four horsemen's influence for many decades. It also furthered the development of the machinery of control which would in the future be implemented for the 'mark of the beast' (Apoc.13: 16-17).

The text itself makes no mention of this; it merely states that the seal was opened. The reason for this was to avoid the implication of a real pandemic involving a novel coronavirus, or even an exaggerated flu. To state the existence of a hoax of this kind in Biblical language would be impossible without giving credence to it. To give credence to it, even accidentally, would harm the inerrancy of Scripture.

To say nothing, then, would both prevent giving credence to the hoax and would otherwise indicate that it is something quite noticeable, being unusual and obvious. An event which affected the whole world, including all the areas of influence of the four horsemen, would be such an event. 

 
The Martyrs Of The Past And Future 

For a time, in many places, churches were closed or severely restricted.The voices of the martyrs proceeding from under the altar are alone, without even the adherents of Vatican '2' present. They ask Our Lord how long will those who brought this about go unpunished.[6]

The future 'mark of the beast’ is prefigured by this event;[7] and already many suffered persecution for refusing the injection. The future martyrs, who would refuse the actual 'mark of the beast', is also prefigured. Those who possessed a love for the truth and perceived the deception in this instance have marked themselves as worthy.[8] 

 
The Knox Translation For Comparison

6:9  And when he broke the fifth seal, I saw there, beneath the altar, the souls of all who had been slain for love of God’s word and of the truth they held,

6:10  crying out with a loud voice, Sovereign Lord, the holy, the true, how long now before thou wilt sit in judgement, and exact vengeance for our blood from all those who dwell on earth?

6:11  Whereupon a white robe was given to each of them, and they were bidden to take their rest a little while longer, until their number had been made up by those others, their brethren and fellow servants, who were to die as they had died.

In this translation, it is more clear in verse eleven that future martyrs were being selected, presumably due to the event by which this seal is opened, when they have shown their preference for the truth. Whereas in the older translation it may possibly be interpreted as a martyrdom happening even then, as  the number is being filled up.[9] The martyrs referred to may specifically be those of Roman times, when they were persecuted by a major power steeped in paganism, and which looks to be returning today under the antipapacy when it is given all power in chapter thirteen.
 
 
Addendum

To add to the future 'mark of the beast' being pre-figured by the conjob19 of which is the reason for the opening of the fifth seal: Even as all were pressured to take the fake medicine at the time, saying that everyone must take it in order to be effective, or it will fail, something similar will happen with the mark of the beast in the context of the false prophecy which will be fulfilled, Garabandal: All must follow Rome, and give honour and devotion to the antipope, or take the mark, or honour his image, lest "the Punishment" of Garabandal come to pass because not enough people took the mark, or gave honour to Rome, or to the image to be set up (which will likely be an AI representation of perhaps John Paul 2 which all can carry on their devices). But it is a false promise: "the Punishment" cannot be avoided in any case because it is a false hope given by the devil to lead those who do not love the truth to Rome of the antichrist.

The thing is, one does not have to do all three to be compromised. All it takes is one (perhaps in this way the 'conjob19' which came previously will not be so obvious a prefigurement; that is to say, if it was a prelude to the mark, its lesson may go unheeded by then). But it seems that whosoever takes one will take all three: "And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice: If any man shall adore the beast and his image, and receive his character in his forehead, or in his hand; He also shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, etc" (Apoc. 14: 9-10). 

 
Addendum to Fifth Seal: The Charlie Kirk Shooting (Sept. 18, 2025)

The Fifth Seal was figured to be the 'conjob19' which came to prominence in March 2020. The reasons are given above; but the Charlie Kirk shooting bears examination in that light, as there are obvious correlations with the Fifth Seal.

From the start it should be noted that, given the depths of the 'mystery of iniquity' and its 'operation of error' (2 Thess. 2:7, 10-11), nothing is off the table in regards to what may be real or false. 

By this point many things have been said about the event, including that the apparent shooter is a patsy and someone (or some others) are responsible; and even that the event itself was staged in that Kirk was 'written out of the script' and not actually shot. Here we are not interested in answering those questions but we are interested in its possible application to the Fifth Seal.

One of the things to keep in mind is the polarizing effect it has had on many; on one side, people are shocked and sympathetic; on the other, they celebrate and are nasty. It is perhaps more accurate to say that the event is not so much polarizing as it is revealing. What it revealed is the depths of spiritual darkness of many; but it did not add to it.
 
There are three possibilities: Either they are both the 5th Seal (unlikely); or conjob19 prefigured Charlie Kirk as the locus of the 5th Seal's opening (unlikely); or this event is the 'sign' of when the martyrs' "fellow servants and their brethren...should be filled up". (The second possibility means that as the 'vaccine' is a 'type' of the mark of the beast, this shooting is a 'type' of martyrdom of those who are for the truth, however imperfectly).
 
The thing is, even if, for arguments' sake, the whole thing was a staged psyop (and for what reason that might be is not our consideration) the three possibilities still hold equally true.

One may argue that, since this occurred during Trump's second tenure as figurehead, that now the martyrs may well cry out (in a loud voice) "How long, O Lord (holy and true) dost thou not judge and revenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth"? After all, nothing much was done during the Trump's first tenure to bring to justice many for their crimes; and now also there is seemingly not much progress (perhaps for a token few), although there is much talk thus far. (As for whether or not certain public figures are genuine, or compromised, or acting, or a mixture of all three, is not our consideration; again, we are interested only in the application to Apocalypse).
 
This would beg the question of whether Charlie Kirk was a true martyr or not; if so, then a martyr in what sense ? Would that account for the reference to the martyr souls 'under the altar' ?[9A]

The Roman martyrology includes only Catholic martyrs, who died for the Faith. In our times, he can be said to have died for the truth in a more general sense. He was not Catholic, but he was opposed to the 'wokeist' (as it is called) ideology which is prevalent today. The worst aspects of that ideology can be seen in the gender confusion, the errors regarding the sexes, and all such scandals (and nonsense). Such things are part of the 'operation of error' spoken of by St. Paul; and as he goes on to say that this operation was sent by God so "that all may be judged who have not believed the truth, but have consented to iniquity" it is in this sense that one can be called a 'martyr' for the truth, if not for the Faith, specifically.

St. Paul had also told us that "he who now holdeth, do hold, until he be taken out of the way", meaning the papacy (in 1958), and what this means is one is not judged, then, on one's adherence, or not, to the papacy which is 'taken away'. That is partly why the 'operation of error' is sent instead. If it were not so, then it would be overkill on the devil's part, since as most people do not believe in the true papacy anyway, there should be no need to drive them further to the truth (if they have an affinity for the truth) with ever more flagrant errors by which all seem to be in the process of being divided even now. But we digress, and whether this view is true or not will have to be seen[9B]; but for now it only seems that those who believe the truth tend to believe it more and more; and those who do not, less and less.

 
This event could not, in any case, avoid comparison with the 5th Seal. However, the old conclusion is not changed; and here is why:

The martyrs' complaint ("How long, O Lord, etc") already accounts for the great length of time from the opening of the 4th Seal, 1965, until 2020 (55 years); and also accounts for the apparent chance for justice to begin to be brought about during Trump's first tenure, and the failure for to do. What was also said is that they should wait:

"And white robes were given to every one of them one; and it was said to them, that they should rest for a little time, till their fellow servants, and their brethren, who are to be slain, even as they, should be filled up".

So when the 5th Seal was opened, the number of future martyrs was not yet filled up; but it will have been filled up 'a little time' afterwards. Five years later would qualify as 'a little time' compared to the fifty-five years previous. That is one reason.
 
The reaction of many on the 'left', but also really the polarized reactions in general, would seem to indicate that most people are, by now, firmly on one side or the other. Most people's minds are made up, at least in a general sense, on which side they would be. This would seem to be an indirect indicator that the number of those who would 'fill up' the future martyrs also have their minds firmly made up.

So the event is not the 5th Seal, but a sign that the 'little time' spoken of to the souls under the altar has come to an end.[9C]

It was said to them that they should rest a little time "till their fellow servants and their brethren, who are to be slain even as they" should be complete. This means first of all the remnant Church who exist scattered about in a world given to all error, which is not unlike the days of pagan Rome. It might also indicate those who have not come to sedevacantism yet, but will when the time comes; that is to say, those who will not follow the beast and antichrist when his time has come.

Part of the 'polarizing' effect spoken of is a result of the 'vaccine' which was inflicted as a result of conjob19. Part of its effect seems to be a deadening of logic and good sense. It would make sense, then, that the number of future martyrs is 'filled up' primarily by those who had refused it. There might be those who repented after the fact or who were coerced to a great extent; but one cannot be sure in those cases.

 
To sum up: The text of the 5th Seal never indicated what was the occasion of its opening;
 
In 2020 we had an event with world-wide effect based on something which did not exist, and its effect was also to lessen the ability of many to heed the truth (even less so than before). Years later it might have resulted in a certain number to be 'filled up'.

In 2025 we have an event noted the world over which, if true, is a 'sign' that the number is indeed filled in the years since 2020. If not true, then it qualifies as what was not indicated in the 5th Seal verses as the occasion for its opening, and henceforth the number of future martyrs is 'to be filled up' beginning now (Sept. 2025).

It is odd that they both seem to fit.
 
 
[Sept. 21 addition]: The effect of the public murder of one who speaks against the 'operation of error' is, spiritually, very similar to the reaction of the world to the murder of the two witnesses of Apocalypse chapter 11 at the hands of the antichrist: 
 
"And they that dwell upon the earth shall rejoice over them, and make merry: and shall send gifts one to another, because these two prophets tormented them that dwelt upon the earth" (Apoc. 11:10).

This is a strong point for 2020 remaining as the official fifth seal opening: Because the martyrs were to wait 'a little time' until those who are also to be martyred 'should be filled up'. And here is why: The 144,000 elect who are signed in Apocalypse chapter 7 are there instead of the two witnesses. This is because there are two possible 'timelines' of Apocalypse, and they are centered around the reign of the beast of chapter 11 OR 13, but not both. So what had happened is the sign that the future number is indeed 'filled up', and it happened at what might have been the equivalent time in the other 'timeline', of when the two witnesses were killed by the antichrist - if events had led to chapter 11 and not chapter 13. That is to say, if we have had the 'period of peace' first. All this is the subject of the "Two Timelines Of Apocalypse" section, which is in three parts (see listing on the right).

 
** Update: The 'psyop' angle seems to be eliminated. Again, all things have to be considered. (Sept. 29: There is something wrong with all of that, but it does not change any of our conclusions.)
 
*** Considering the 2020 or 2025 duality above: If opened 2020 (as is our official stance), the martyrs' words can still refer to 2025 even then (as they are outside of time), as the sign that the number is 'filled up' (almost everyone's minds are made up, or 'locked in’).

 
[Mar.13/26]  Addendum Fifth Seal: The Epstein Files

It is quite possible to see in the martyrs' complaint a reference to those infamous files, their long-delayed release, and even then not in full, as well as the lack of progress in the enactment of justice:

"And they cried with a loud voice, saying:  How long, O Lord (Holy and True), dost thou not judge and revenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth?" (Apoc. 6:10).

The victims are thus spoken for by the martyrs. They are not themselves martyrs, and they did not die for the Faith, but they nevertheless did die, in a sense, as victims who were used by the 'mystery of iniquity' to extend their control over the earth; in fact, the 'mystery of iniquity' may be said to be part of the definition of "them that dwell on the earth" - those who live for the world, by the world, and without regard for eternity; for good or even for ill.

However, we do not believe this to be the fifth seal's opening, for reasons given in "6 Planets Align On February 28, 2026", which is quoted again here:

Recent Events And The Fifth Seal

When the fifth is opened, St. John saw "under the altar the souls of them that were slain for the word of God and for the testimony which they held. And they cried with a loud voice, saying: How long, O Lord (Holy and True), dost thou not judge and revenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth ?" (Apoc. 6:10-11). An argument can perhaps be made that the long-awaited release of the 'Epstein Files' represents the opening of this seal. After all, no serious prosecutions have been made thus far (as of Feb. 26, 2026) so the martyrs’ words can be said to concern that lack of justice. And then they were told to 'wait a little time' until the future martyrs, those of these times, are to be 'filled up' (Apoc. 6:11). A 'little time' can be less than a year, as a 'time' represents a year in Apocalypse. But we do not think so.

Without again going into all of the reasons why, we believe the opening of the fifth seal to be the world-wide fake pandemic (2020). It did not actually exist, which is why the occasion of the fifth seal’s opening was not mentioned in the text. If a 'pandemic' or something similar were spoken of in the text, the impression would be given that it is real according to Scripture, and that would be an error. Since Scripture cannot err, its silence on the subject confirms the truth about the event, and confirms those who saw the truth - who will be numbered among those spoken of as the 'brethren' of the martyrs. 

At the time, many people accepted what might be considered to be the precursor to the mark of the beast. And many denied the truth of the situation. From that point the good and the bad (those who will believe the truth and those who will not) began to be sorted in earnest.

The martyrs were told to wait 'a little time' until the number of their future brethren should be 'filled up'. From the fourth seal to the fifth (1965-2020) is fifty-five years; in comparison, 2020-2026 is indeed 'a little time', or one-tenth part. From the assassination of Charlie Kirk in September 2025, when the nastiness of one side was seen clearly, to the aforementioned Epstein Files, which seems to have the effect of further sorting those who might believe the truth from those who do not (but in a different sense, which we will not examine here), and further still, later this year, when the SSPX will consecrate new bishops in defiance of the Vatican which might ultimately result in a real full schism from "The Second Vatican" (the 'New Church' of 'Vatican II'), resulting in a noticeably large number leaving Rome to become sedevacantist, it appears that the number which is to be 'filled up' is soon to be accomplished.

 
Footnotes

2.  https://www.europarl.europa.eu/about-parliament/en/in-the-past/the-parliament-and-the-treaties/treaty-of-rome/

3. Until 2021, it was thought the fifth seal probably represented the long passage of time from the fourth to the sixth, given that there was no specific event indicated.

4.  https://ucatholic.com/blog/did-you-know-why-every-catholic-altar-contains-relics-of-saints/  The first four paragraphs.

5.  We are not interested in providing additional proofs for this. One believes it or not. The purpose here is to demonstrate how the Apocalypse itself shows it.

6.  That is to say, not only are the legitimate Mass and pre-Vatican '2' goers absent, but not even those with minimum Catholic sense were present. This happened in many places in the world, simultaneously, for the first time in 2020.

7.  The injection was not tied to a religious intention, so this cannot be the 'mark' of Apoc.13: 16-17.

8.  They are not necessarily Catholic at this time, but when they refuse the 'mark of the beast' it will be because they see the antipope as such, as they had seen the 'pandemic' for what it was not.

9.  Their martyrdoms would be fulfilled later. The number of them is not necessarily specific; they are "filled up" when all qualify themselves who believe the truth. The event of this seal provided the impetus. It also prefigures the few who would resist what the whole world appears to think is true, because they know it is not true (see Apoc. 13:8).
 
9A.  Let us say, for arguments' sake, that the whole thing was a staged psyop: In that sense, the martyrs' "How long, O Lord, etc" is in the sense as of disbelief in the many layers of the deception of the 'operation of error'. Seeing the world mourn a martyr who is not a martyr (if a psyop) but would be a kind of martyr for a great deal of the truth at least, and derided by the other part of the world as if he were a true Catholic martyr, but is not (again, if a psyop); because the 'operation of error' is so great that someone who is nominally half-Catholic (in the classic, true sense) in principles and in philosophy at least, qualifies as a kind of martyr for the principle of truth. In short, the idea of someone being 'martyred' for even a certain, if incomplete, level of truth (whether it was a psyop or not) and having such a polarizing and revealing effect on both sides might explain the complaint of the souls under the altar of the 5th Seal.

9B.  It is explored in "The Two Timelines Of Apocalypse (Part Three)" in particular.
 
9C.  In the previous footnote [9A] is what the martyrs' statement would mean if the seal were opened now instead of 2020. The original interpretation, which we still hold, held that the particular event which opened the seal represented something which did not actually exist (conjob19), so it could not be indicated without 'legitimizing' it. Now if this murder was a psyop, it, too, represented something which did not exist, but is treated as though it did. In this sense the reference to the martyrs fits very well in that they complain that one is treated as a martyr as they are if he is not one at all.
 
 
 
Arrangement Of Contents
 

Thesis & Synopsis: Our Lady of Fatima is the key to Apocalypse, which concerns the Book of Life and two possible timelines of fulfillment.
 
The end point of this exploration placed at the beginning. All else is in between.   
 
The Siri Thesis is incorrect/inexact and the timing of Roncalli's Mass alteration proves it. What really happened is that not only is the chair empty, it is removed.
  
Four Living Creatures And The Seals
Apocalypse Chapters 4 & 6:  The Four Living Creatures and "He, that sitteth on the throne" (Chapter 4). The four living creatures represent Our Lady in the four Marian Dogmas. They announce the arrival of the Four Horsemen, which are movements of influence in the world for decades.

Apocalypse Chapters 6 & 8:  Decades after the fourth seal and the beginning of the Vatican '2' church, the fifth seal is opened with a worldwide deception and for the purpose of filling the number of elect. An even greater deception comes as a false prophecy (Garabandal) fulfilled.
 
Apocalypse Chapter 12:  The establishment of the antipapacy by the dragon and the retreat of the church (the woman) from Roncalli's appearance in 1958 to the imposition of Vatican Council '2' in 1965. Siri was elected but did not reign (the Siri Thesis). 

And Apocalypse Chapter 7:  The 'man of sin' and his origin; the "operation of error" and its extent; and time stops to sign the elect as for the Miracle of the Sun.

And Apocalypse Chapter 15: Sr. Lucia of Fatima's Third Secret vision released by the Vatican in June 2000 and interpreted as a failed assassination attempt - which it is not.

Apocalypse Chapter 1:  The apparition to St. John on the isle of Patmos. There is a distinct possibility that it is St. Joseph.

The End Times In Two Ways: Fatima has two alternative scenarios; so too, does Apocalypse. Only one can come to pass...Looking at the Gospel accounts, La Salette and Our Lady of Good Success in particular.

Catholic Prophecy In General:  The Great Monarch, the Holy Pope, the Three Days' Darkness, how they relate to the Gospel accounts of the end, and St. Malachy's Popes prophecy. Looking at its changes over the centuries.
 
Two Timelines Of Apocalypse (Part Three): "It All Comes Down To This".
The Book Of Life Thesis: The meaning of 'the little book open' (Apoc. Ch. 10); the full implication of the Book of Life; examining Daniel's prophecy (Ch. 12); resolving a 'circular logic problem'.

Follow-up to "Two Timelines (Part Three)": How the Apocalypse may be used by the Adversary if it is not ignored or discounted, or all at once.
 
The lack of a consensus is no obstacle to the remnant Church and there are reasons why, drawn from the 'Sede Remota' premise. Church in 'mode of preservation'. 
 
Exploring specific 'dogmas' of the "operation of error" and how they are applied everywhere today. 

Everything added to the ’canonical’ sections from the start until the conclusion of “Two Timelines”.

Signs and non-coincidental indications which are noticeable in the context of this site.

Short or incomplete points which do not go anywhere else, but might be useful.

Brevity is the soul of wit. Or, at least, getting the point across.




~~~ This was originally begun in June/July 2005; completed as far as it then could be carried by the summer of 2011; "Book of Life" Thesis arrived on Sept. 27, 2011; no real advancement from 2012-2021; erased 2020 for reasons; first reconstructed as this 'blog' 2021-2022 (due to 5th Seal 2020 and decided April 2021); rebuilt again from Oct.-Nov 2024 until essentially completed Nov.30-Dec.2/25; Dec.6/25; Dec.31/25. In a sense, the real origin was from Sept.-Oct.'92. For the record, there are reasons for this note. ~~~

Searching For Answers In "Revelations"

 
Introduction

The author believes that Catholicism (33-1958 A.D.) is the one true religion revealed by God to mankind; that Jesus Christ is Lord and Saviour; and that all the dogmas of the Faith must be believed, whole and entire, as the Catholic Faith.
 
It is also held to be true that the current age is the time of Apostasy, the loss of faith, which began in particular with the establishment of the first false pope in 1958, Angelo Roncalli (a.k.a John 23rd); and also with the founding of the false church of Vatican Council '2', in 1965.
 
The time of Apostasy concerns the "last times of the world". The key to understanding it all is found primarily in Apocalypse and the prophecies of Our Lady of Fatima. All other sources are secondary and must be subject to them.
 
Naturally there are plenty of other theories about the Truth Of It All, and they involve many prophecies; but Our Lady is Queen of Prophets; and Fatima cannot become irrelevant or supplanted, for it was never resolved. Since the third part of the Secret of Fatima was kept hidden, in 1960, it is to Apocalypse we must turn, for it means "Revelation".

 
The Premise And An Outline
 
This theory is a 'big picture' theory. The Apocalypse concerns the whole history of the world, from its creation in Genesis to its end (and more). In chapter twenty-one, St. John (for it is he who wrote it) saw "a new heaven and a new earth. For the first heaven and the first earth was gone: and the sea is now no more".

The whole point of Apocalypse is the Book of Life. It is the book "sealed with seven seals" (Apoc. 5:1). To unseal it is the ultimate goal; its result is a more favourable outcome for all souls. This was in the plan from the beginning, for the Book of Life is "from the foundation of the world" (Apoc. 17:8). And the only one Who can do this is Our Lord Jesus Christ, Who purchased salvation for us at great price. His Merits are sufficient for all whether or not souls make proper use of them.

The Apocalypse is divided into chapters according (for the most part) to a particular theme. Some of them depict Heavenly events (chapters four and five), others clearly concern visible events of the world (chapters 11 and 13), and there are those in which both intersect (chapters twelve and fourteen).
 
There is no clear chronological order of events. There is an order, but it diverges into two parts. We can see this more clearly in chapters 11 and 13, both of which are concerned with the years of the reign of the "beast", but in completely different ways. This is due to the divergent "timeline" which may be called "the Two Timelines". To put it simply, the time of the beast would have unfolded according to either chapter 11 or 13, but not both. This is explored in detail in other sections.
 
The Apocalypse is not a simply a straightforward account of what will happen. That is not its purpose. True prophecy is employed to warn its recipients to repent of their sins and change their lives for the better. Thus, prophecy is, in the main, conditional.

Apocalypse is also conditional in that it can unfold this way or that, according to how it is arrived at. That is why there are Two Timelines, and either of these are arrived at through the Secret of Our Lady of Fatima, Whose prophetic words also diverge into two possible outcomes - conditional upon whether or not Her requests were carried out - and both of which lead into the End-Times. This is the key to understanding the arrangement of the text, and its meaning.



Arrangement Of Contents
 


Thesis & Synopsis: Our Lady of Fatima is the key to Apocalypse, which concerns the Book of Life and two possible timelines of fulfillment.
 
The end point of this exploration placed at the beginning. All else is in between.  
 
The Siri Thesis is incorrect/inexact and the timing of Roncalli's Mass alteration proves it. What really happened is that not only is the chair empty, it is removed.
 
Four Living Creatures And The Seals
Apocalypse Chapters 4 & 6:  The Four Living Creatures and "He, that sitteth on the throne" (Chapter 4). The four living creatures represent Our Lady in the four Marian Dogmas. They announce the arrival of the Four Horsemen, which are movements of influence in the world for decades.

Apocalypse Chapters 6 & 8:  Decades after the fourth seal and the beginning of the Vatican '2' church, the fifth seal is opened with a worldwide deception and for the purpose of filling the number of elect. An even greater deception comes as a false prophecy (Garabandal) fulfilled.
 
Apocalypse Chapter 12:  The establishment of the antipapacy by the dragon and the retreat of the church (the woman) from Roncalli's appearance in 1958 to the imposition of Vatican Council '2' in 1965. Siri was elected but did not reign (the Siri Thesis). 

And Apocalypse Chapter 7:  The 'man of sin' and his origin; the "operation of error" and its extent; and time stops to sign the elect as for the Miracle of the Sun.

And Apocalypse Chapter 15: Sr. Lucia of Fatima's Third Secret vision released by the Vatican in June 2000 and interpreted as a failed assassination attempt - which it is not.

Apocalypse Chapter 1:  The apparition to St. John on the isle of Patmos. There is a distinct possibility that it is St. Joseph.

The End Times In Two Ways: Fatima has two alternative scenarios; so too, does Apocalypse. Only one can come to pass...Looking at the Gospel accounts, La Salette and Our Lady of Good Success in particular.

Catholic Prophecy In General:  The Great Monarch, the Holy Pope, the Three Days' Darkness, how they relate to the Gospel accounts of the end, and St. Malachy's Popes prophecy. Looking at its changes over the centuries.
 
Two Timelines Of Apocalypse (Part Three): "It All Comes Down To This".
The Book Of Life Thesis: The meaning of 'the little book open' (Apoc. Ch. 10); the full implication of the Book of Life; examining Daniel's prophecy (Ch. 12); resolving a 'circular logic problem'.

Follow-up to "Two Timelines (Part Three)": How the Apocalypse may be used by the Adversary if it is not ignored or discounted, or all at once.
 
The lack of a consensus is no obstacle to the remnant Church and there are reasons why, drawn from the 'Sede Remota' premise. Church in 'mode of preservation'.
 
Exploring specific 'dogmas' of the "operation of error" and how they are applied everywhere today.
 


The Siri Thesis: Sede Vacante Or 'Sede Remota' ?

The Siri Thesis is incorrect. [Edit: inexact] There was no hidden pope during the first few decades of the antipapacy established 1958. Siri was elected, it is true, and it may be true that his reign is prorogued as suggested here; but what is important to emphasize is that, as stated in 2 Thessalonians 2 (verses 6-7), the papacy which restrains the 'man of sin' and "withholdeth (him), that he may be revealed in his time" does not hold if a pope did actually exist but was hidden. No, St. Paul in Thessalonians was more explicit: he stated that (the papacy) was "taken out of the way" or "removed from the enemy's path".

This means that the papacy was removed as though it were null; it was not applicable; it was 'removed from the circles of the world'. It's not ended (St. Paul did not say that), but is completely removed for these times, as if it was abrogated as an institution. This was necessary for the antichrist to come, because he and the true pope cannot exist in the world at the same time, and this must include the antichrist's forerunners, the false popes. This also means that, during this period, no one can be elected in any case.

Since then, the requirement to have the name of the pope in the canon of the Mass is null. And, for the years 1958-1962, having the name of a false pope attached to the Tridentine did not matter. Not only was the papal chair empty (sedevacante) but it is not there to be found at all under Heaven (sederemota).

This is the reason why Roncalli established the altered mass on July 25, 1962, via the Apostolic Constitution Rubricarum Instructum, just a few months before the opening of Vatican '2' on October 11, 1962. The dragon could not yet undermine the bishops by having them recognize a false pope, and so be in schism; as if the papacy, for all intents and purposes, was no longer required; but he had to make unauthorized changes to induce them to move away from the legitimate mass of St. Pius V, and so fall into schism in that manner.

This may also mean that no canonical mission or papal mandate is now required for legitimate priests and bishops to operate in the world. 

In the examination of the "time and times, and half a time" for the second half of Apocalypse 12, in which the woman flees into the desert (out of the dioceses), this did not fit exactly with the length of Vatican '2', which was a little over three years (Oct. 11, 1962 until Dec. 8, 1965); but if the altered mass (July 25, 1962) is taken into account in the way described, it is indeed three and a half years - exactly.
 

*The 1962 missal was not binding on the Eastern Rite; thus the Church was "nourished for a 'time and times, and half a time' from the face of the serpent" (Apoc. 12:14).
 
**Siri could not have fallen from the papacy due to what is called by some cowardice, and by others acts of unfaithfulness by recognizing a false pope over and above himself. There was no papacy on earth any longer from which to fall, or else his own was 'prorogued' (Apoc. 12:5 is applicable to both notions). Another way is to view it like this: "What therefore God hath joined together, let no man put asunder". God can separate things: the papacy from the pope, or the seat of the papacy from the world itself, which would amount to the same thing. But this is not a punishment: As St. Paul told us, "he who checks (the conspiracy of revolt) now will be able to check it, until he is removed from the enemy’s path" (2 Thess. 2:7~Knox). This was done by God to prevent the enemy from separating them, as Christ's promise to St. Peter indicates. [[ Dec.30/25 edit/clarification: It was to prevent the whole Church from being in the state of schism due to a technicality. See also Apoc. 2:24 about the "depths of Satan" ]]. This accounts for the relevant verses both of Apocalypse and Thessalonians.

*** On days: There are precisely 2,600 days inclusive from Siri's suppressed election on Oct. 26, 1958 until the close of Vatican '2' on Dec. 8, 1965, taking into account leap years. This is 45 days over precisely seven years. In Daniel 12:11-12, the time of the 'abomination unto desolation' is given as 1,290 days; but then: "Blessed is he that waiteth, and so cometh unto a thousand three hundred thirty-five days". The meaning of this is not known.

The time from Siri's election until the day before Roncalli's false version of the mass (Oct. 26, 1958 - July 24, 1962) is 1,367 days inclusive. This is considerably greater than 1,260 days. But the number is meant to indicate a time period of at least 3.5 years (two and forty months = 30 * 42 = 1,260). The years are thus truncated from 365 to 360, as each month is assumed to be 30 days. It would seem that the years and months are also truncated when indicating the general time period of the first half of chapter twelve. Thus, all of 1959, 1960, 1961 and the first six months of 1962 (not July) is "1,260 days" without part years or months.

(See "Faith Undermined (1958-1965)" for Apocalypse chapter 12.)







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